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I’ve been thinking a lot about how this terrible incident didn’t just affect the individuals directly involved, but the entire community. The fact that youth practices were happening so nearby is deeply unsettling. Imagine being a child, excited to play, then having coaches suddenly halt everything and rush you away because of gunfire echoing through the air.
It must have been terrifying for those kids and their parents. Seeing a place where families gather for safe, recreational activities turn into a crime scene is disturbing. These spaces are meant to offer safety and positive community engagement, and now they carry the shadow of that day's violence.
I hope the community will come together to ensure these places remain safe for everyone, especially the younger generations who deserve places to play without fear. My heart goes out to everyone affected. It's a painful reminder of how quickly things can change and how important it is for us to take care of one another.

I found that the 16-year-old who was sought in the Showalter Park shooting did surrender to deputies in late August and officials announced he will be transferred to adult court, authorities booked him on a first-degree murder warrant and the state requested he be held in pretrial detention rather than released on bond.

That doesn’t undo how frightening it must’ve been for the kids and parents at the nearby practices, but it does mean the criminal case is moving forward and prosecutors are treating this as an adult homicide prosecution while the courts sort through claims like self-defense that have already been raised.

I’ve been thinking a lot about the neighbors who had to witness this tragedy unfold at the apartment complex. It must be haunting to have your sense of safety shattered so abruptly, and I can't imagine what Sabrae and Raul's families are going through. It's terrible to think that this level of violence could happen in what should be a safe and peaceful environment. I keep wondering if there’s any more information about the interaction before the shooting. Clearly, something escalated quickly, but without more details, it’s hard to understand. I really hope people who might have seen or heard more come forward soon so the families can get some answers and maybe even a bit of closure. My thoughts are with everyone affected by this terrible incident.

yeah. KCPD has asked anyone with information to call homicide detectives at 816-234-5043 or the anonymous TIPS line at 816-474-8477 , so if neighbors heard or saw anything please reach out, even small details can help 😔. I read a witness said the shots sounded like heavy, automatic-style gunfire and that he and his 12-year-old cousin ducked to the floor, so theres likely people who heard more than they realized; dont assume what you heard is insignificant.

Hey everyone, I came across Shane Lynn Olecka's case and it's really been on my mind lately. Has anyone else wondered about the circumstances around the search efforts? I read that the weather turned into a blizzard soon after he went missing, which must have been horrible timing. Imagine trying to mount a search in those conditions—the visibility alone would have been nearly zero. I’ve also been thinking about how the vast area and the snow could cover any potential signs or traces. Seems like such an unfortunate combination of events. Given all this, I’m curious if there were any discussions or breakthroughs years later when some of that snow might have melted. It feels like there's so much we still don't know, especially with the suspicion of foul play involved. Would love to hear if anyone has any thoughts or similar stories where time or seasons changed the outcome of a search.

yeah, the blizzard timing really hamstrung the initial effort and I read the RCMP actually re-opened/reviewed the investigation again in 1996–97, which suggests they kept the case active long after the original search was called off. Even with later reviews there still haven't been any confirmed sightings or new physical evidence found, and foul play remains the working theory, so seasonal thawing sadly hasn't produced the breakthrough you hope for. It seems like this one has stayed cold despite periodic attention, so any tip , even old family or local recollections , could be crucial if someone comes forward.

I'm still trying to wrap my head around Leno's tragic death. It's truly unsettling to think about how one moment can change everything. What’s bothered me the most lately is the connection between Leno and Bison Coffeehouse. For those who aren’t familiar, it’s not just a random coffee shop – it's practically a fixture in the community. Remember when it was targeted after hosting that "Coffee with a Cop" event back in 2022? Makes you wonder if the past events there somehow play into this horrible situation.
My heart goes out to Leno's family–they must be going through so much pain right now. I saw the photo they released of him, and it was a stark reminder of the life that’s been unfairly taken. It bothers me a lot that the investigation hasn't led to any arrests yet. I just hope that anyone with even the smallest piece of information reaches out to the detectives working this case. Leno deserves justice, and his family deserves answers.

You are the first to say just what I've been feeling and thinking the whole time

EG , absolutely. Been thinking about this case a lot too; it still feels unreal that two years on there haven’t been any arrests or clear answers. If you or anyone else hears even small details, please reach out to the homicide detectives , Leno’s family deserves justice and someone out there might have the piece that helps. 😔

Does anyone have more details on the neighborhood watch programs in Historic South-Central LA? I’ve been following the news around Jeronimo Lugo Vasquez’s case and can’t stop thinking about how community efforts might play a role in preventing further tragedies like this. It's deeply upsetting to see another life lost to violence, and I can't imagine the pain his family is going through. Are there any local initiatives in place, or are new ones being considered in light of recent events? It’d be great to hear thoughts from locals or those familiar with similar community efforts.

I actually just posted with case information for Jeronimo. Based on evidence found online it appears that Karon Cann was arrested and charged with Vasquez’s murder but the case was dismissed due to plea bargain and he was ordered to pay 100k restitution in exchange for the dismissal. Because the charge was dismissed the identity of victim has been sealed or redacted from public records. But Vasquez is the only gunshot murder victim on 7/24/19 “without a suspect or person charged” that was publicly announced. The other 4 homicides around or on this date have been solved w/ updates to the public.

Chrisean Rock was attending Santa Monica College at the time and her bf Karon “Ronnie Doe” was in LA with her at the time of the shooting. Chrisean Rock has ties to South Central, and been online speaking of a murder case without disclosing a name. However the age/discription given by Rock and Cann online match Vasquez.

It appears that Cann himself was murdered in 2025 and as far as I can tell that case is unsolved. https://www.aacounty.org/police-department/about-us/news/police-press-release-february-4-2025 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/288400386/karon_makhai-cann https://crimesolverscentral.com/homicide/176269 Possibly street justice? Who knows.

Has anyone looked into the nursing home's security measures at the time of Irene's disappearance? Given her mobility challenges, it's baffling to think she could have just walked away undetected. Were there any cameras or staff logs that could provide insight into who might've been around that afternoon? It's a small community, and someone might have noticed something unusual but didn't think much of it at the time. I imagine any bit of footage or forgotten detail could be a game changer in piecing together what happened to her. It's cases like these where every little piece of information could make a difference.

AV , I checked recent local posts and the Grand Falls Police Force still lists Irene’s case as open (a municipal post marking 24 years since her disappearance urges anyone with information to contact GFPF at 506-475-7767). I could find no public record saying whether the nursing home had cameras or preserved staff logs from August 3, 2002, so that detail would need to come from the police or the facility's records.

Thank you for this page. This is my little sister, I miss her so very much. I hate that there is so little to say about what happened, just three paragraphs to sum up the end of a life. But the fact that it is here at all brings me a little relief. The fact that people care.

I hope someday they find who did this. I am sending peace and loving thoughts your way.

I’m so sorry , it’s cruel that a person’s whole life gets reduced to a few lines, and I’m glad this page gave you a little comfort that people remember her. I hope the case gets answers for your family someday.

Hey everyone,
I've been following the case of Lamontae Ryshaan Salley's tragic death, and my heart goes out to his family and friends during this incredibly difficult time. I came across something that got me thinking about the broader implications of this case: the role that unresolved conflicts and past grievances can play in escalating situations to such devastating ends.
From the reports, it seems like the altercation between Salley and Jatarrius Kelly was intense. It makes me reflect on how we might better address conflict in our communities before it turns violent. I wonder if there were any warning signs missed or if any community programs could have offered support to prevent this tragedy.
It's important that we as a community look beyond just the immediate facts and consider what can be done to prevent future incidents. If anyone has information about programs that work towards conflict resolution or preventive measures that have been successful in other communities, please share. Maybe we can bring some positive change out of such a sad situation.
Hoping for justice and healing for everyone affected.
Stay safe, folks.

Hi,

i am a close friend of the family and we really appreciate your kind words :). Yes, there were so many rumors floating around and Lamontae was a very bright soul. He had that type of energy that just makes you smile after a long day. He was funny, goofy, and very intelligent. If you were having a bad day he made it his mission to make you smile. He is truly very missed, especially by his children. They were very young when this tragedy occurred .. so that was a lot for the family to take on. He was the football star of the town, so yes you are correct to say he had so many people that cared about him and loved him !!!! He had many nicknames but his favorite was MOJO lol. An update was made on the case March 2026 and they found Kelley or whatever his name is not guilty ….. still, we honor Lamontae and we keep his memory very much alive. Not only for his classmates, family and those who loved him.. but for his children who had to grow up without their father. #LongLiveLamontae #LLMOJO #34

TJ , thanks for sharing how close the family is and how much Lamontae meant to everyone; that really comes through. I'm a little confused because court records show that Kelly was actually convicted at trial and later sentenced to life in prison, not acquitted in March 2026 😔

This case is always taking my thoughts to the "What Ifs?, land. I'm brand new to this site, being, I am unsure if links are ok so will edit if needed. I went to this forum

https://websleuths.com/threads/mi-bobby-glen-stephens-33-kalamazoo-9-may-1986.371369/

I left a comment about a John Doe located in Luce County

https://dnadoeproject.org/case/luce-county-john-doe-1987/

https://www.namus.gov/UnidentifiedPersons/Case#/6754/

https://www.veterandoe.com/unidentified/unidentified-person-michigan

https://unidentified.wikia.org/wiki/Luce_County_John_Doe

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/94ummi.html

My letter to the detective: ~edits to expand~

Wed, Jun 3 at 4:56 PM

Sgt. Leblanc,

I am writing to formally request a manual, non-automated review of missing person Bobby Glen Stephens (NamUs #MP13927) against the Luce County John Doe (NamUs #UP6754).While both individuals have DNA profiles on file in CODIS, there is a strong possibility that Bobby's reference DNA on file is a familial match from adoptive parents rather than biological, preventing an automated system match.However, the physical and circumstantial overlap is overwhelming and requires a manual comparison of medical/skeletal records

Military Background:

The Luce County John Doe was found in full military camouflage gear. Bobby Stephens was an Army veteran ~so donning these types of clothing shouldn't be no surprise even if not, "Military Issued". He knew the TYPE of clothing was warm and durable regardless of where it came from.~

Skeletal Facial Trauma:

The Luce County John Doe's skeletal remains showed significant, old, healed facial and head trauma. ~NAMUS described ***Large scar on neck from ear to ear at least 1/4\" wide**~ Bobby Stephens survived two catastrophic accidents (one in childhood, one in the military) that left him with severe facial deformities that left him with a SCAR FROM EAR quoted by his sister, Linda, in her interview. ~ Also his lower extremities, ie; leg could've been fractured and the metal rod that was used on the JD, could've been a factor in either of Bobbys accidents. ***Let me be clear, the article stated a metal rod was USED That DOES NOT MEAN PRESENT ON THE JD. A few people have deterred from this thinking a rod was visibly there, found on the JD. It was simply noted one had been evidently placed at some point during the healing stage, then removed. The pins/braces leave permanent marks on the bones. I believe this has been misinterpreted for YEARS. ***

Timeline & Geography:

Bobby vanished from Kalamazoo in May 1986. The John Doe was found October 1987, with an estimated time of death perfectly matching Bobby's disappearance window.~Also the distance was about 385 miles. 2-3 weeks straight walking. Quicker if hitchhiking. Mix of both perhaps? Absolutely do-able.

The facial reconstruction of the doe is so similar in the eyes and upper lip, and an overbite that is also, hard to ignore. ~I've superimposed the images and you cannot get a better lineup, especially the eye sockets and lip or mustache!~

No birth records are on file or seemingly available to verify his birth, making adoption a possibility. His running off is also a key factor here being he also left the ARMY without permission ~and was discharged, honorably but the instances of him fleeing or disappearing often times, are very similar and can attribute to the rest.

The Dna project quoted, "John Doe could be adopted or was raised by a father that is not his biological father."

So I submitted the match request to the (doenetwork) panel with all this information and received this. Verbatim

Your suggested match did not pass our panel, primarily because both of them have DNA available and if this suggestion was a match, the CODIS system would have matched them.

What does not match is **extensive and major: timing, distance, circumstances, medical information and hair color. (Umm?)

Whenever I have a submitter that has strong feelings about a match I encourage them to submit themselves to both the Missing Person contact and also to the contact for the UID. In this particular case, I would encourage you also to contact the DNA Doe Project. Unless there are other extenuating circumstances it will not pass the panel. (Ok?)

Having said that, sometimes the DNA is not collected from a first degree family member so if there was a submitted match that had DNA available for both, but lets say that everything else matched - timing fit, proximity was extremely close, stats matched and lets say that the UID and the MP both had a peacock tattoo on the left shoulder - we would submit that or maybe both UID and MP had a rod inserted in their left hip due to an accident, but it would have to be quite a strong identifier for us to ignore CODIS. (smh)

Someone bring him home.

Thanks for sharing this! The doenetwork link you have I think is old. They have been restructuring their site, the new link is https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/software/mp-main.html?id=3469dmmi

Also, the link to the case from this site is https://crimesolverscentral.com/case/19187 for Bobby. It's hard to reconcile the 2 images but that doesn't always mean anything since the remains were skeletal and that is just an artist representation and that is not an exact science. Please keep us updated on your findings!

Here is my rendering. Did not adjust anything but the size of the image..

https://crimesolverscentral.com/mb/view_board.php?board_id=503

yeah PN, the Luce County John Doe (found Oct. 24, 1987 in McMillan Township) has been taken on by the DNA Doe Project and the remains were recovered wearing military‑style camouflage with evidence of a healed leg injury/metal rod , worth pushing for a manual review against Bobby’s files since CODIS can miss matches if reference DNA is from adoptive relatives. 👀

Dont stop following up with Kalamazoo PD and the DNA Doe Project case‑tips email , those two avenues are your best bet to keep this moving.

I'm his mother and it's been beyond any words could ever express just how devastating this is . Now my being wants to fall apart but I won't allow my self and over the last year I stood looking out his window at the spot where he was shot and ask myself how is there no footage , how come so many different stories from those so close to him " FAMILY " . 10 rounds of a 45 and 5 hit him it was the lung shot that killed my baby not the head shot. Why was the detective told not to talk to me that ..... Would deal with me herself...and why wasn't I allowed to see my grandbaby and help or know the date day and place of the funeral why was I not informed and blocked from the one person who claimed next of kin , I'm not perfect no I've had my down falls and made plenty of mistakes over and over again sometimes , but if you dig deep enough it's all there so why haven't they done another ng about this . If there any leads or information that anyone thinks I should know please contact me .I won't give up not tell my baby can rest and get a head stone

i'm so sorry you’ve had to carry this and for the way things have been handled around you , that sounds incredibly painful and confusing. from what i can see the police press release identifying leno and the homicide investigation is still the active record and there haven’t been any public arrests, so it’s reasonable to keep pushing detectives for answers and records about funeral arrangements and next-of-kin decisions. if you want, keep documenting everything you’re told (dates, names, who said what) and press the homicide unit again , referencing case number 24-275256 and asking to speak with the detectives listed could help force clarity. you don’t have to do this alone; if you want, post here what you learn and folks around the community will try to help where we can.